推荐回答(2个)
经过本人最近对造价员换证工作的参与,有几点解释如下(上海的情况):
1。预算员的证件名称“岗位证”(全名很长,只要记得是岗位证就可以),是由各地的建筑施工协会或者各专业协会负责培训/考试/发证,职责就是建筑施工企业中的预决算编制等,证件编号为YS-10248之类。
2。造价员证件名称为“资格证”(同样名称很长,简称资格证),负责发“岗位证”的上海建筑施工协会明确表示,“资格证”必须由政府/国家单位来认定,上海是由上海标准定额总站来颁发的,并有定额站负责培训/考试/再教育,如果有上海的朋友翻出“资格证”,会发现最后审证一页有定额总站华茂初老师的审验章,华茂初老师就是定额站里面的,负责资格和资质的双资办领导。执有这个证,就可以进行审价了,现在好多老法师都是这个证。
3。造价员之所以与预算员混淆是有原因的:在造价员没有出来之前,市标准定额总站发两种证件“审价资格证”和“概预算资格证”,各有不同的执业章,如审价-“沪建审价专用章 华妙福-01234”;如预算-“沪建预算专用章 张国莺-40468”,而这个“概预算资格证”也被简称为预算员证,和施工单位里的预算员同名,而后者所执的是上海市建筑施工协会发的“岗位证”,甚至1996版的“岗位证”封面发证单位直接印上了中华人民共和国建设部,直到后来发证单位才改为上海市建设委员会。(可见当初的建设部有统一管理全国施工企业预算员的想法)
4。预算员和造价员之间的关系:以前施工队的预算员必须先考“岗位证”,然后再参加定额站组织的考试,领到“审价资格证”或“概预算资格证”才能转行从事工程审价工作,最近这两张“资格证”统一转换为全国通用认证的“造价员”。然而实际上,上海从2000年开始,自从2001年实施第一批“造价师”认证制度后,就停止了“岗位证”升级到两种“资格证”的考试,好像政府主管部门的意思是让预算员直接考造价师。后来,又发现原来“造价师”不是那么好考的,就有了产生介于施工队预算员和“造价师”之间的“造价员”,也就是恢复原来两种“资格证”,并改名为“造价员”。
5。常见问题:
⑴施工队伍中好些1996就有“岗位证”的老预算员,由于没有参加“审价资格证”或“概预算资格证”考试,就一直是“岗位证”,这次无法升级“造价员”。
⑵2000年之后即使参加同济大学培训的预算员考试,拿到的也只是上海市建筑施工协会发的“岗位证”,如YS-TJ-50084,这次同样无法换证。
⑶本次换证主要对象是2000年之前的执有“审价资格证”或“概预算资格证”,但是没有考取“造价师”的对象,统一换“造价员”证以及换“造价员”章,老的作废。
⑷新的办法估计很快就会出来,就是“岗位证”升级到“造价员”,代替以前“岗位证”升级到“资格证”,但是上海市市政站的体系不变,还是先考“岗位证”,2年之后再考“资格证”。
此外,很多施工单位的预算员或对本次换证不感兴趣(无意转行审价),或某些考取“岗位证”的朋友已经在造价单位审价(其实是非法的,以后必须要造价员)也不感兴趣,其实还是需要注意的。
累死了,小小一个问题如此麻烦,欢迎大家一齐探讨!
本人从事预决算多年,很负责地告诉你:在上海地区
1.机械进场费参考市政信息价补充子目即可。
2.土方外运 要三方签价 一般土方75元/M3,建筑垃圾95元/M3。
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