请各位帮忙——选择企业,短期待遇和长期发展哪个更重要?

2024-12-30 01:10:03
推荐回答(5个)
回答1:

回复 15# 首先,很多谢您的意见,特别是梦想,拼搏,以及工作中的得著等等,我想这些对方都可以在场上用到。我的这一番言论是基於楼主提出的对方论点而言的,我假设对方将长期发展等同实现自我价值,那麽此时其实是对方在将长期发展极大化,极重要化。这样对方很可能会失去一个前提,我只是希望在这里重新提出这个前提。当然,我的表达能力或许有问题,其实阁下的意见和我的想法有吻合的地方,那就是这只是一份工作,这里需要指出,梦想和长期发展没有必然相关,你下围棋的梦想可能是胜利这一结局,但长期发展本身是个过程,大约就是到中盤的时候你期望的形势有没有出现(我不太懂围棋,不知道有没有说错)。那麽回到题目本身,你怀揣梦想可不可以?当然可以,你努力拼搏可不可以?当然可以,但是当你选择企业的时候,你应该更多考虑的是中短期的利益。我相信在下围棋的时候,绝世高手可能在前十手已经预见到了中盤的结果和发展,但这些人毕竟是少数,对於大多数人,能思考清楚十个回合的变化,相对是比较实际的。“注重长期发展的人,即便最终失败了,他也能得到一些东西,那些为了未来而积累的专业知识,那些与人交往的能力,那些失败的教训,都将跟随他们一辈子”,关於阁下这一段论述,恕我无法苟同,不论人注重长期发展与否,失败总是能够带给我们经验,那些为了未来而积累的专业知识,那些与人交往的能力,那些失败的教训,都将跟随我们一辈子,但前提是我们是否愿意从失败中学习,而非我们是否注重长期发展。最後,提醒正方,别轻松的就接受短期利益等与钱这个观点,短期利益不仅仅是钱。

回答2:

回复 5# 其实也可以说是短期待遇啊~~刘备对诸葛亮的任用就是啊~~直接任命为军师得到重用啊~~反观曹操手下能人众多~~诸葛亮要是去了还能得到像刘备这里一样的重用嘛~~这也是短期待遇的一种表现啊~~不过个人还是支持将这了问题回避掉更好~~毕竟古人出仕与我们选择企业不同~~

回答3:

如果把长期发展上升到企业上,会不会跑题?我怕反方说,个人要选择能让自己长期发展的企业,而有能力长期发展的企业,才能保证待遇,才对个人更重要,而给的起短期待遇的企业,未必能长期发展,有可能上顿饱下顿饥

回答4:

这里只是反驳技巧~~跳槽是为了把长期切成段,竞争激烈是为了把段掰成片,化长为短,化整为零。但真正要注意的是1、对方观点指出了短期也很重要,但长期更重要~~突出了更~~如果lz的观点不能突出这个“更”必然吃亏;2、我们说长期和短期,怎么界定,或者说怎么区分?不能区分很可能会被对方将短说成长;3、我们说做职业规划很重要~~而且职业规划一旦成型,就成了对我们择业的一个指导,但这个职业规划属不属于长期发展呢?如果不属于,那么对方将职业规划纳入长期发展是在混淆什么概念。这几个问题LZ必须搞清楚先~~

回答5:

我感觉正方很容易偏题啊,对反方比较有利,555

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